"We will never save civilisation as long as civilisation is our main object. We must learn to want something else even more."
—C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
John MacArthur and John Piper . . . are concretely and publicly doing more to defend the fundamentals than most fundamentalists.
That sounds like Jack Schaap to me.
no way. Jim Binney for sure.
Ryan and David have both been reading WAAAAYYY too much Sharper Iron.
What do you want, a lawsuit for defamation?
Bauder in "Fundamentalism worth saving"?
Scott got it.Verify here.Like I said, Ryan, he only reads the modern theologians.
I am obviously not reading enough Bauder.Hopefully he doesn't find out I attributed his quote to Jack Schaap.
Oh, sure. The one with no prize.
Dude, you're Jonathan Edwards, for crying out loud. What are you gonna do with a TNIV?Wait, here's a free link to a free download of an MP3 of someone delivering a sermon you preached. Put that in your iPod and smoke it.
My day job really puts me at a disadvantage on these guessing games. As you experienced at the Wilds, Paleoevangelical (like all blogger sites) is blocked by our filtering service.If I want to get my Paleoevangelical fix I have to surf over to Mohler's blog and hope that I am seeing content he picked up from Paleo. It's just not the same.
Now you need to discuss the comment. This has been my contention all along--that guys outside of fundamentalism are doing a better job of defending the fundamentals of the faith. If Bauder, a leading fundamentalist, is saying this as well, it leads to pretty profound questions about the foundation of the movement known as fundamentalism.
It's obvious, Wendy, that our movement is "fundamental-less." Fundamentalists have issues.
I don't know what I have to add. Bauder nailed it. I would have been thrilled enough if he had simply acknowledged that some guys were thinking this and that they might have good reason for doing so. But for him to do what he did and actually state his agreement was phenomenal.Over the past year I've seen lots of discouraging things along these lines, but I've also seen and heard and heard about plenty of other things that are quite encouraging.In my opinion, anything good that happens in this arena will be incremental, for a number of reasons, some of which are good, and others of which are debatable. There is an emerging conversation, so to speak (beyond what we see at SI, both in significance and substance). Things are happening that to my knowledge have never happened before. Where that conversation goes, nobody knows, but I think that communication is a good thing and a perfectly fine place to start.
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