Friday, August 05, 2005

Drinking from Wells: If a Paleo- Recommendation Wasn't Enough

Ligon Duncan also recommends David Wells' No Place for Truth. Duncan, pastor of First Presbyterian Church (PCA) in Jackson, Mississippi, is a name worth knowing. You can become a little more familiar with his theology and personality by listening to interviews of him concerning Church and Culture and Worship.


Unk said...

Since you've recently read NPFT, would you say (I have read it many years ago) that his main point is that Evangelicalism has a problem that requires a solution that involves, mostly, caring about theology again?

I want to know if you think he thinks it comes down to proper theology and that is pretty much all.

Michael C. said...

Another game:

I don't really expect to stump you here, but do you know where Ligon Duncan grew up? No Googling!

Ben said...

Greenville, South Carolina. Do you know what church? (I don't know myself, but is it associated with Greenville Presbyterian Seminary?)


He spends far more time explaining the problem and how it came to exist than he does prescribing the solution. His solution is what you suggest, I think it's fair to say.

Paul said...


Doesn't Wells dedicate a book to the solution: the sequel, "God in the Wasteland"? I have not read it yet but that was my understanding as he closed out NPFT introducing it.

Unk said...

Perhaps he does. I think I read that one too. But I think I remember that his solution was to get back to thorough theology. This is what Iain Murray advocates also. And I think this is what DG Hart criticizes in Deconstructing Evangelicalism where he says we need more.

Ben said...

Murray quotes Wells constantly in the last few chapters of Evangelicalism Divided. I think Murray does a better job of addressing the spiritual nature of the conflict, though. He devotes a whole chapter to it.

Michael C said...

Yes, Greenville, SC. I've known what church Duncan attended, but my memory is fuzzy. I think it might have been Shannon Forest Prebyterian Church. I don't think there are any ties to Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary. There's an OPC congregation that meets in the GPTS building (formerly Community Baptist Church).

You might also be interested to know that a prof from GPTS received his PhD from BJU this year. His ThM was from Princeton. :-)

GPTS has also purchased a cool old building on Main Street Taylors they intend to renovate. If they succeed with their plans it will mark a big step forward for GPTS.

Ben said...

I wonder if there was ever a time 40–50 years ago when Ligon Duncan, John Piper, Bob Jones III, and Jesse Jackson were in pretty much the same place at the same time.

Community Baptist in Greer? I visited there about 5 years ago. Is that their new location and GPTS is in their old building?

Michael C said...

I've had similar musings about the notable pastors Greenville has spawned. I can't come up with any event where they might all have crossed paths. Could a pre-1957 Billy Graham event do it?

I suppose there is enough of an age difference between Jones, Piper, and Duncan that they would not have been in public school at the same time? Dr. Bob went to Stone Academy for elementary school. Piper went to Wade Hampton for high school, but I don't know where for grammar school. I don't know about Duncan.

Yes, Community Baptist Church (Pastor Whitcomb) now meets on Suber Road in Greer. GPTS meets in CBC's old building on Main Street, Taylors, not far down the road from the property they've recently acquired.

Ben said...

I'm only guessing, but I doubt if pre-1957 evangelistic events were integrated.